Simfish/InquilineKea's Thoughts

April 6, 2008, 6:08 pm
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agents of creativity:

1: government

2: corporations

3: individuals

Ways to incentivize creativity: (external motivation assumed)

government: accountability to taxpayers by means of elections

corporations: profits

individuals: profits, recognition by others and the opposite sex


elements of theories are judged by:

– how well they explain examples IN a particular domain (we can also debate how general this domain is)

– this domain has examples, counterexamples, and motivating examples


what makes for a good judge?

– the problem is “goodness” depends on what you desire. a lot of times, what is desired isn’t explicitly stated (often because it would contain too much info that’s open to ambiguous interpretation)

– there are many possible systems – you can compare two sucky systems with one ending up better than the other

– think of the big picture – not just of the laws and customs


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So what is meant by creativity?

I mean, it seems like by creativity you mean creating what other people want, because in each case there’s an external motivation.

I know you set that forth as an assumption. But that seems to pretty severely limit what is thought of as “creativity”. (cf. Schopenhauer) It also seems to make arbitrary the value of creativity; e.g. if government depends on the will of the electorate, they [the collective electorate] get to decide if something is creative or not and whether or not that creativity has value.

Not sure the above made any sense by the way.

Comment by Dasein36

Hm, interesting points.

The thing with creativity is that anything that’s useless and random can still be creative. One can scribble a bunch of scribbles and call those creative, for those scribbles can be something new that no one created before. So what people consider “creative” is just something new that impresses them. A certain set of scribbles, in fact, could theoretically impress certain people (one elephant made scribble paintings and managed to impress an artist who didnt know it was an elephant).

So yes, people’s impression of the valueness and creativeness of things do seem to limit what is thought of as creativity. What is Schopenhauer’s view of creativity?

Comment by inquilinekea

So the “creative value” of something depends on a set of standards. The issue with this, of course, is, a set of standards is arbitrary and relative to a the desires of a group of people.

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